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 First off I’m so proud of you you’re doing great work here!!!







I read through all of it and it makes so much sense (but I’m looking into the same as you a Federal Court 1983 complaint and I’m slow but I’m familiar enough now to follow your thorough words! I strive to be at least as good)



Here’s what I see in Federal court is that the Conference has a “pre-meeting” of plaintiff and defendant (by phone or otherwise) and depending on the judge or often magistrate judge requires the Conference paper to be returned before the Conference meeting with the (magistrate) judge.

Different judges have different rules so check the individual rules for Judge Fais.

Did you and those attorneys fill out the Conference paper and send that to the judge yet?
Maybe just maybe the telephone meeting was the pre-meeting both parties are supposed to have before the actual Conference in court?? Which if that’s the case, the actual Conference Meeting in front of the judge did not happen yet.
Please find out for your judge and call the pro se office to clarify because you’re definitely “on to them” and using what Dr. Graves teaches us well. Hope this helps!

In Federal Court some things are done as “Letter to the Judge” but are filed electronically under “Motion” not “Letter”

I say this because I went to the Federal Court Pro Se office who explained (and printed in detail) how to do this pro se and even though it’s called a “Letter to the Judge” you still file it under “Motion” not “Letter”

(that causes me now to think, what would qualify as a Letter in there but that’s not relevant right now)

Yes definitely correct the record!

Dr. Graves, if we as Pro Se, come to this in Good Faith, but attorneys like those painted are on the other side, what are things she’s (we are) going to have to look out for that attorneys are going to “trick” her into next?

You know, those examples and many stories you have of the tricks and bullshit that attorneys do which we Pro Se aren’t familiar with?

You have the many years of watching them perform and we don’t. We need all we can to be prepared not to fall into obvious and less obvious attorney traps.

If she agrees to a settlement conference without any discovery, thinking she can object after the fact, I don't see that happening. She clearly didn't agree, but wants to attend a conference and if it doesn't work out to her satisfaction, she's waived that right. Am I wrong?
Check the Docket.
Look for any written Order regarding the Settlement Hearing.02:56 AM
ONLY if you c.c. opposing and the c.c. clearly appears below your signature AND you actually do c.c. your opponent in such way that you are CERTAIN he/she gets it before the judge. Works ok in Florida. You might do a bit of local look-up to make sure.
If you recorded audio of an opponent without permission, in a state barring the collection of audio without the other party's knowledge and consent, that evidence most likely will not be admissible in court.


JJ said
Your confusing exhibit with evidence. Not the same thing08:04 AM



I call this a "laundry list of evidence" because under the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, these documents constitute discoverable evidence that is directly relevant to the claims and defenses in the pleadings.

I recognize that under the Rules of Evidence, these items are currently unauthenticated public records and documents. They do not automatically become admissible trial evidence just because I possess them. However, they are far more than an "opinion." They are the exact, tangible items that will populate my Rule 26(a) Mandatory Disclosures and my formal Production of Documents during the discovery phase.

Because these items are public records obtained directly from government agencies via OPRA, they carry a high probability of successful authentication under FRE 902 (Self-Authentication) or through a standard Request for Admission. Therefore, while they are technically "potential evidence" or "discoverable material" right now, calling them my evidence denotes that my complaint is grounded in fact, not mere speculation.

I also call it evidence because these documents are the specific, physical items that prove the factual allegations in my complaint.

I understand your point: a document is not legally recognized as "admissible evidence" by a judge until it is authenticated and moved into the record at the proper procedural stage. Right now, these are technically discoverable materials.

However, because these are certified public records, police body-cam footage, and internal town rosters obtained through official OPRA requests, they are the exact foundational pieces that will be introduced during discovery and ultimately moved into evidence at trial. They aren't my "opinion" of what happened, they are the state's own official records of what happened.

I'm actually not confusing them at all. I completely understand the distinction: an exhibit is a document or item labeled for identification (like "Plaintiff's Exhibit A"), while admitted evidence is an exhibit that has been officially accepted by the judge under the Rules of Evidence.

The items I gathered through OPRA are currently discoverable materials. For the settlement hearing, they will be used as Exhibits to show my position. At trial, those same exhibits will undergo formal authentication to become Admitted Evidence.

Pointing out my laundry list just shows the trajectory of how my raw data will eventually become part of the trial record.

Certified copies of government documents are admissible on their face per the rules.

What’s the best way to search for something specific in the course?

I feel like the longer I study Jurisdictionary to more “lost” I get inside the course itself.

Also is there something in the course of how to set up some filing system (digitally as well as paper) so to best be prepared for the long run (appeal!),

If you recorded audio of an opponent without permission, in a state barring the collection of audio without the other party's knowledge and consent, that evidence most likely will not be admissible in court.

New Jersey is a one-party consent state. Under N.J. Rev. Stat. § 2A:156A-3, it is legal to record an in-person or electronic conversation as long as you are a participant in the conversation, or if one of the other parties has given you permission. [1, 2, 3, 4]
However, being a one-party consent state drastically changes the legal landscape for evidence and privacy, which requires a careful approach: [1]
What This Changes
  • Legal Protections: You can legally record your own conversations (like phone calls or business meetings) with someone else without having to notify them. This is extremely common for gathering evidence of harassment, domestic abuse, or verbal agreements. [1, 2, 3, 4]
  • Third-Party Recording is a Crime: You cannot record a conversation that you are not a part of unless you have the explicit permission of at least one of the people speaking. Eavesdropping or secretly bugging a room you aren't in is a crime . [1, 2]
  • Criminal/Tortious Intent: The recording becomes illegal if it is done to commit a crime, a tort, or any other "injurious act" (even if you are a participant). [1, 2]
  • Cross-Border Calls: If you are calling someone in a state that requires two-party (or all-party) consent (such as California, Florida, or Pennsylvania), you must follow the stricter laws of that state, or risk legal penalties. [1, 2]
  • Admissibility in Court: While the recording itself might be legally obtained in NJ, it is not automatically admissible in a courtroom . The recording must still be relevant to the case and bypass typical legal hurdles like the hearsay rule . [1]
When to Proceed with Caution
  • Expectation of Privacy: Even if you are part of the conversation, recording someone in highly private spaces—such as a locker room, bathroom, or a strictly confidential consultation—can lead to civil lawsuits for "intrusion" or "public disclosure of private facts" . [1]
  • Corporate Scrutiny: Courts and business regulators in New Jersey are increasingly aggressive regarding the misuse of recordings (such as in commercial disputes or partnership breakups) . [1]
Further Exploration: Additional context on New Jersey recording laws






You do know the federal law says a debt collector has to prove they own the debt? Fla FCCPA prohibits any person from claim and assertions of a legal status that does not exist. FDCPA is the federal part, Bryan Parker is an atty on YouTube teaching the collectors never have title to any debt, their burden of proof
Was the contract unilateral or bilateral?

What do you think? Its a contract with a credit card company. Would that be unilateral or not? As soon as the debtor uses it, they have now agreed to and committed to the terms. So it may have started out possibly as unilateral, although just because there are no “wet ink signatures” does NOT make it unilateral.

So you go look up what that means and how it would apply in court.

Do you have actionable items that can get something dismissed based on what type of contract it is?



One must always understand the Rules of the jurisdiction you're in.

Force others to abide by them (including judges),and know them better than your opponent!

Study the section on Evidence, within the course.

Back to my questions as that wasn’t answered yet

Jurisdictionary General Questions:

What’s the best way to search for something specific in the course?

I feel like the longer I study Jurisdictionary to more “lost” I get inside the course itself.

Also is there something in the course of how to set up some filing system (digitally as well as paper) so to best be prepared for the long run (appeal!)

Keep studying.
Re-reading sections and take the quizs (score high).
It helps to remember what your looking for.
Utilize a notebook,take notes.
Stickies/labels/folders and a filing cabinet.
(I'm old school).

The key to not getting lost is to follow the classes in the MAIN MENU in order and not to skip ahead. Otherwise lost you may be.

Yeah that’s why I said before that I would have preferred this course in a book or print-form so i can study the way Im used to.

I got my hand on several books that I use now including a $200 one from the BAR and with this I notice even more what for me is lacking in Jurisdictionary. Based on finding clarity there I started searching in Jurisdictionary and didn’t succeed. (yet)


Yes I go in order, I started over actually several times…

Part of this is the paradigms shift and being in the part of chaos-before-clarity.. I’ll get out on the other side eventually though.

Yesterday a court employee (attorney in the court’s help center) told me I can’t file a certain motion until after judgment and I said I can, then this attorney was so helpful to tell me the judge “wouldn’t grant it” and by that time I knew enough but I did say they will… (not that that attorney listened or cared but I didn’t say it for them).

If anything this gives me more confidence not less.

Thank you Dr. Graves!

Does anyone know which court would have jurisdiction over a state agency?

Yes it would be circuit court or district. Depends on your state.

If you read the civil rules. Theres a rule for review of agency. Rule 84. In Idaho as example

As an example. If my public records request was denied. I can treat that as an agency decision and file the rule 84 petition

For a state agency, would you go to state court? For a federal agency would you go to federal?

I need more information. What's the name of the agency? Is there a tort claim ?

I have two, the Franchise Tax Board in California, and Big Bear Lake, California Fire Dept. The former denying Due Process, the latter excessive harassment and fines without notification.

Should be your state’s trial level court.

Although Jurisdictionary prefers State courts, I’m dealing with a state agency basically-depriving me of my rights to sue in state court, so in that example I know there’s a way to file in Federal (maybe even dual file) but in my specific example going straight to state court would result in immediately being thrown out so I cannot follow Dr. Graves’ advice-for this matter.

(Maybe the state agencies count on the citizens not to file in federal court so they just focus on keeping me unable to file in state court, who knows, they’re so corrupt they probably don’t care that they co-kill our country) and once filing in state court, you preserve your federal claims in the state complaint as well, right Dr. Graves?

Where is it written and what is written that forbids you to use YOUR state courts to sue a state agency. Would like to read that, please.

I said “immediately being thrown out”

because,

and i posted this many times here,

because I never lost in the administrative process…

I won so many times I lost count… (this alone isn’t according to the law!)

I “win” but… I win-nothing and they do me wrong again with more or different lies and I go into another administrative process and “win” again…

I know how to “win” too well sir, the day that they “win” I can go to state court (only pretty much immediately or I’ll be “too late”)

No where did I say “forbid” just that it’s pointless because my case would be “immediately thrown out.”

Breach of contract

Crooked lawyers will draft proposed orders, send them to judge, and “forget” to notice you. Beware. It happens.

How do I find out if this is happening or has happened?

Review carefully all the orders signed so far in your case to see if any say anything contrary to what the judge ruled at hearings or contrary to the law and evidence.

Has anyone filed a Texas Petition for Review pro se?

Has anyone ever used a service like docsmit or something similar? I'd like to avoid trips to the post office. Certifiedmaillabels.com is solid

what is this "what is first is truest; what is first is best in law"
Ask, “By what authority?”



Today I sat in court from 9am to 12:30 pm for scheduled trial. Have not received discovery despite it being requested two months ago. I have a heavy record with many motions and not a single motion has been ruled on or any findings of fact or conclusions of law stated or in memoranda to the record, only verbal diarrhea “this court has jurisdiction”. My last appearance I requested the charging instrument which was a copy was given to me: traffic citations with zero facts alleging any crime as required by NJ Rule 7:2-1. No findings of fact and conclusions of law required by NJ Rule 1:7-4(a).
My last appearance I requested to inspect the record and was denied inspection of the record by court administrator and the court bailiff. Under Rule 1:38 court records are open for inspection to the public. The judge today stated that I would have to file the proper request to receive those records. I stated on the record “are you saying that court records are not open for public inspection?” The dis-honorable scum bag said “that’s correct”. I hope Fred reads this so he can stop expressing to me how I just dont know how to control judges with the rules and tactics. These lower than dog shit on the bottom of a boot judges could care less about rules, tactics, rights, laws or the integrity of the court.
After sitting there from 9am-12:30 this scum bag calls me up to tell me that my matter won’t be heard today because they have a driving while intoxicated trial that the court requires the judge to here before my case and he can’t hear my case today. Randy, I to want access to the grand jury.
Judicial complaints and criminal affidavit filed by tomorrow.
How do I get them before the grand jury.

How many objections did you make on the record? One of the most important tactics that we’re taught is making timely objections.

You never specifically stated that you made objections. You only made a generalization that they don’t care about rules, tactics, or law. How can anyone conclude that you made any objections by some general statement like that?

Can you please avoid emotion and just be reasonable about this? Should I just make an educated guess that you made objections simply because of your assertions?

It was not a trial. It was an adjournment of a scheduled trial. I raised the issue of never receiving discovery and also being denied access to the court record. Also the fact that not a single motion submitted has been ruled upon nor any finding of fact or conclusion of law was submitted to the record. So I didn’t actually say “I object” but I did raise issues concerning the courts lack of procedural process.

When you don't get responses to your discovery requests, Nigel, file Motions to Compel AND SET THEM FOR HEARING.
Push your case!
Get in the driver's seat and stay in the driver's seat.
YOU drive the case, not the opponent OR the judge.
Take charge.

Motion to Compel Production
Motion for Better Responses to Sworn Interrogatories
Motion for Order Deeming Requested Admissions Admitted

That will get things moving.
SET THEM FOR HEARING AND HAVE A COURT STENOGRAPHER PRESENT OR ASCERTAIN IN ADVANCE THAT THE HEARING WILL BE RECORDED AND AN OFFICAL TRANSCRIPT MADE AVAILABLE AT YOUR REQUEST AFTER THE HEARING.

I know that I can compel discovery. Today I requested a hearing on the six different motions I have before the court that have not been reviewed by the court whatsoever. I also requested an evidentiary hearing. They were denied and I was told they would be addressed at trial. They are dispositive motions. I should be afforded a hearing on the motions and also an evidentiary hearing before the trial date. Not a single finding of fact and conclusion of law on the record just the blanket statement “this court has jurisdiction”. Not a single fact to support the element of any crime in the complaint. How can probable cause be determined when there are no facts that would establish probable cause?

Hearsay is allowed. Police report is allowed. A witness statement or over the phone is allowed.


Find the other rule, the one that states as a party to the criminal case you have a right as per the adversarial process to view in advance of any hearing or trial all the evidence the opposing party has collected against you. You are not “public”. You are a party to the case. This should either be in the criminal section of the statutes or the ethics section of the statutes. You may also want to see where the administrative procedures act applies to criminal cases in your state.

Where is the charging instrument?
What does it say in regard to alleged FACTS, or does it merely say what the ELEMENTS are that you allegedly violated?

No facts at all, just statutory numbers

Love how the first amendment is flowing here... The freedom of the press, freedom of religion, the right to petition the government, the right and freedom of assembly, the right to free speech. We supposedly hold and enjoy these rights codified in 1791. The authors never demonstrated how we exercise the powers to get past the enforcement roadblocks. Oh, I forgot, they did, and it's called a Grand Jury. The GJ is the most inaccessible and protected enforcement arm. These self-serving criminals figured out a way to usurp our Constitutional rights which has effectively enslaved us.

The only way to avoid crime is through education. Unless we are wise men and women, there are risks to others. We are only enslaved if we are uneducated.

There’s a reason why it’s called a classical liberal arts education. And I don’t mean liberal in the modern sense.

Personally, I argue regarding duties and obligations rather than rights. Law creates the duty. God doesn’t create a duty to be immoral and unjust to others. Natural law is the higher law that everyone in this group should acknowledge.
how to apply your theory and exactly what steps you would take, specifically, to enact and apply your theory in order to obtain real results.

Many in this group don’t understand the correlation between liberty, truth, and justice. I get people using logical fallacies every time game theory is mentioned. They don’t seem to care what their potential opponent knows.

It’s not a theory, I do take my time to learn things. I do try and understand philosophy like Aristotle, Plato, and Thomas Hobbes. I do spend my time trying to be fair and open minded to education. But, I know how important logic is when it comes to understanding truth and reality. There’s a reason I’ve mentioned metaphysics in a comment of mine. It’s relevant to natural law.

  You can’t find solutions without knowing the root cause. Have you ever heard of first principles?

I don't disagree, but this is a pro se legal group. Knowing theoretical root causes of the failure of a system of justice and societies offers no methods of application as to how to obtain real solutions.

Positive law may or may not align with natural law. Two different types of law. One is codified, the other isn’t. You can’t codify logic.

I have a college degree in the social and liberal arts. I also studied logic. We were taught that the concepts that you are espousing are both theoretical and applied. So I have to disagree that logical concepts are not theoretical. If a theory can be applied it's not considered to be a guess

I'm only here to study law as practiced in court rooms. If I brought up logical studies in court, it would likely anger the Judicial Officer, or I would be laughed out of court. None of what you mention is ever discussed in court between opposing parties whether it applies or not. A court is a forum for solving legal disputes, not an educational facility.

In fact, this discussion is relevant to natural law as it pertains to logic. Many things that I discuss are mentioned in law school such as rhetoric and Socratic method.

Again, we can’t get morals without education. We can’t even get liberty and truth without education. So, if there’s people interested in liberty like I am, education is necessary.

The three branches of rhetoric include judicial. If you think about government, it involves rhetoric.

Read Dr Graves essay on Natural law carefully. It’s all about jurisprudence. There’s a duty of care. Wisdom is necessary. This has nothing to do with my emotions or yours. I wish people could see that.





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