Patriot Pusher are trying to push Criminal, Civil law into the Commercial Code Nonsense And IRS

Patriot pusher are trying to push criminal and civil law into the commercial code nonsense

 Don't come on here promoting that patriot nonsense. You. like these other patriot pusher are trying to push criminal and civil law into the commercial code. We are not doing commercial code here.

This is a deafness inducing wall from what I can see.

Curious if anyone has sued a business for trying to get them to sign a W4/W9 as a condition for employment. Looking for strategies once I start making my rounds. I think this would be a great way to get some court experience under my belt.

It's a standard IRS form. Nothing unique to this employer

They're standardly misapplied. They are withholding certificates that, under tax law, do not apply to a domestic citizen making his own domestic income.

You can fill it out and write exempt in the withholding box.

1) you still have money removed from your paycheck if a W-4 is involved
2) signing either form triggers assessment
3) signing exempt can get you a lock-in letter

Unsure what the lock-in letter means. Alternatively you can write 99 in the exemption box . this is something I done before

A lock-in letter gets sent to your employer and locks you in to the highest withholding. You can't change it.

Regardless, possibly one of the few ways to get companies to stop illegally requiring you to sign these forms and/or withhold from you, which contains no penalty to NOT do it, is the teach them the law - possibly through court. That's what I want to do. I don't want to be a little good boy and follow daddy's orders.

Give them a W8-BEN or make your own W8-BEN substitute because the IRS publication says you can, if they don't accept it because they're scared stupid, sign whatever they want, exempt, 'without prejudice, under duress' before your signature.. after you get looted and receive a W2, send in form 4852, W2 substitute, to challenge/rebut their claim of you 'exercising privileges' that would validate taxation, claiming 0 income on form 4852.. to refund what they looted.

For state taxes, your state department of revenue should have a withholding exemption certificate that you give to your 'employer', I did this and claimed 'nonresident' because I know myself to be and act accordingly... You shouldn't act like a resident and claim to be a nonresident... such as registering to vote, have children in public schools etc. But there's an option for exemption because 'last year you had no obligation and expect to this year as well' ... on my states exemption form at least, I'm sure your state has one..., here's mine, https://www.oregon.gov/dor/forms/FormsPubs/form-or-W-4_101-402_2026.pdf
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